Sunday, December 26, 2010

Obama Birth Certificate Challengers Won't Give Up



According to CNN:
The Supreme Court has again cast aside an appeal that raised doubts about President Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship, a grass-roots legal issue that has gained little legal or political footing, but continues to persist in the courts. ... The justices without comment Monday rejected a challenge from Charles Kerchner Jr., a Pennsylvania man who sought a trial in federal court forcing the president to produce documents regarding his birth and citizenship.
Read more at CNN.

Kerchner's fixated on what I call the "immaculate conception of Americans" for president meaning he believes the United States Constitution's definition of "natural born" is that only those born on U.S. soil and of parents who are both United States citizens already can be POTUS.

In the video above, Texas State Representative Leo Berman (R) answers Anderson Cooper's questions, sort of, and appears to be nuttier than a fruitcake with his birther talking points. In November, the Texas rep. introduced a bill in the Texas Legislature that mandates all candidates for president or vice president of the United States of America present to the Secretary of State of Texas his/her original birth certificate or be excluded from Texas ballots. So, all you people who want to run for president whose original birth certificates have been destroyed after fires or flood in state houses could not get votes in Texas if Berman has his way.

To give you a better idea of Berman's mental state, at a Glenn Beck "Take Back America" rally in April, the Texan called President Obama "God's punishment on us."

In his interview with Cooper, Berman consistently appears misinformed. For instance, he quotes a blogger but claims to be quoting the Congressional Research Service. Cooper tells Berman, the State of Hawaii has certified that Obama's birth certificate stating he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961, is authentic. He also explained to Berman that the non-partisan FactCheck.org has obtained a state-certified copy of the president's birth certificate with the official raised seal. Berman responds that any machine could make one of those seals.


The Texan won't believe the birth certificate is real unless he sees the original. Anderson should have told him to get on a plane to Hawaii and go through the archives himself because while he readily accepts fellow birther's claims that "we know nothing about Obama," he refuses to accept the Hawaiian government's certifications and would rather think it's a great conspiracy to keep President Obama in the Oval Office.

Berman also plugs his ears after declaring he knows less about Obama than any other president ever and suggesting it's strange not to have access to Obama's school records. Cooper tries to tell him that former president George W. Bush's school records are also off limits legally to the public. They only became available through illegal means.

But come on, we know nothing will satisfy the birther people. Even if we could send them back in time to personally view Obama's birth in Hawaii, they would still not accept that he's a citizen because they also cling to his father being Kenyan and a subject of the British Crown. I'm inclined to adopt MsLadyDeborah's conclusion that this birther nonsense would not continue if Obama were white.

12 comments:

tfagan said...

When we look at the probability of three or more consecutive helpful mutations occurring in a living cell we find the probability rules out any such possibility. Likewise, with Obama's birth certificate, who in their right mind would believe that the president of the United States would spend millions to prevent anyone knowing with any certainty where he was born, the name of his father and mother, hiding all school records, using a bogus SS number from Connecticut and much much more. If you believe in fairy tales then you could believe that Obama is qualified to be president of the United States of America.

Vérité Parlant is Nordette Adams said...

Tfagan's comment illustrates the point I made in the post, that no matter how many facts with which anyone confronts birthers, they continue to believe what they want to believe. Furthermore, they never address the facts that debunk their beliefs.

JsEverydayFashion said...

I am very interested in learning more about this issue and the facts at the beginning were really enlightening. And then... I got to the end. The last sentence makes the article loose all credibility for me. The author shows that they clearly favor Obama and they seem pretty angry/jaded about the whole situation. What has happened to objective, unbiased articles that present the facts from both sides? As a journalism major myself, I think there needs to be a clear distinction between "opinion pieces" and "articles of facts," but this seems to be a blurring of both?

Christine said...

I am not an Obama supporter. I'm very conservative fiscally, socially mostly liberal. However, the birth certificate "issue" isn't much of an issue at all. There are a handful of people who are holding onto it like pitbulls, but then again there were a lot more people holding on to issues about Bush too. Whenever there is a president that is only popular with half the people, you're going to have some who will be fanatical about it. Personally, I feel like it's blog posts like this and Anderson Cooper who keep this "issue" alive. If ya'll just ignored the wacko's, they'd fade in the background! LOL!

Vérité Parlant is Nordette Adams said...

Thank you, JS. Whose Shoes Are These Anyway? (as its name would suggest) is not a news website but a weblog. Weblogs aka blogs are by nature more likely to be opinion-oriented and so they should not be assumed to carry objective articles. It's quite possible your journalism coursework did not cover the evolution of blogging nor how to tell the difference between a news website and a blog. With that possibility in mind, I recommend this academic piece "Blogging as Social Action," which looks at the blog as genre.

I am sorry that you were disappointed but nothing in the description of my blog beneath its title promises that my personal blog is a place providing objective news articles.

Vérité Parlant is Nordette Adams said...

Thank you, Christine. I appreciate your commenting. The issue will continue to be covered the same way humans watch train wrecks.

Anonymous said...

I think the issue won't go away because Obama doesn't want it to.

The State of Hawaii has NOT shown Obama's official birth certificate to anyone because of privacy laws. Only Obama himself can give permission for his birth certificate to be verified. What Hawaii has shown is a Certificate of Live Birth, which does not contain all of the information and signatures required to be an official record.

Since Obama is the only one who can grant permission for his actual birth certificate to be made public, and he continues to deny that permission, he is the reason the controversy continues. And why would he do that? Because it gives him a political advantage over people on the right who doubt his citizenship, and by proxy, anyone on the right who disagrees with him.

Instead of debating actual issues or addressing criticism of his policies, he can throw out the idea that it's the crazy "birthers" who don't like him and want to see his agenda fail. It's a convenient distraction and he is using it for all its worth. If he were simply to show his birth certificate and end the speculation, how would he dismiss people who disagree with him? Oh yeah...He'd just call them racists because it's impossible to defend oneself against that accusation.

Vérité Parlant is Nordette Adams said...

Anonymous, I have a response to your faulty logic, but I leave it to others reading this comment section to see the holes themselves.

Cristina said...

I wrote about the ridiculous birther movement in February 2009 here: http://workingmomdemocrat.blogspot.com/2009/02/grasping-at-straws-citizenship-rumor.html

I agree that at this point, nothing will convince the conspiracy theorists - not a birth certificate, not a birth announcement published in a Hawaii newspaper from 1961, not a statement from the director of the Hawaii state department of health. It's ludicrious.

And I think the argument that Barack Obama keeps the controversy alive in order to distract from issues should be completely flipped around. It is the political opponents of Barack Obama that keep the controversy alive to distract people from real issues and capitalize on people's fear of someone with a funny name and darker skin -- obviously my opinion since I am commenting on a blog.

Amanda said...

I wish the birthers would just give it up.

While he's in Hawaii demanding Obama's Original Birth Certificate, he should consider demanding the over-6-million birth certificates of adoptees as well. From what I understand, Obama has an Amended Birth Certificate; which is what adopted persons born/adopted in the U.S. similarly receive. Our Originals are sealed and we are usually forbidden to see them. Pennsylvania just eliminated OBC access for Adult Adoptees altogether a few weeks ago. If they pass laws requiring original birth documentation to hold public office, that's over 6 million people out of the running right there.

We've had at least one adopted president, I'd be curious to see if he had an Original Birth Certificate or if any one bothered to ask him to show one.

Amanda said...

And I do agree with your last line. If we did not ask past presidents, who may very well not have been able to produce original birth documentation themselves, for a birth certificate, why now is this such an issue for this particular president?

Do people realize how many legislators there are out there who are adopted and couldn't produce an OBC if they wanted to? No one is hooting and hollaring at them about their birth documentation.

Vérité Parlant is Nordette Adams said...

Thank you, Cristina. I'll visit your post.

Amanda, bringing up adoption and birth certificates, you add a piece I had not even considered. But I had thought about the people who've lost their original birth certificates due to to disasters. Thank you.